teal-mafioso:

eabevella:

I haven’t thought of this! This is a subtle thing in english but yeah,
I did got the shock of Connor’s line

but didn’t notice it’s because of the “I” in that sentence. Once you pointed that out, the significance is huge.

My biggest problem about deviancy is how the general population of android simply being switched from mindless robotic servant of human to mindless robotic servant of Markus. They don’t show any struggle or confusion or any actual emotion except the same drone like “follow Markus and yell freedom slogan” behavior. It sort of ruined the mood. Even Bryan said it’s over-simplified when he played the part (bless him and Amelia). Personally, I’d like the game focus more on individuals since you can’t possibly write event of such a huge scale in 1/3 of the story line in one game. And I’d like to see the differences between different models. It would be interesting to see not every model has the same level of self-awareness. I think models whose original function is to interact with human can reach self-awareness more easy, but those who don’t probably don’t have the hardware and/or software complex enough to be self aware. It can also explain the difference between Kara’s more code-like inner thought, while Connor’s clear conscious of “I”, and it’s a great way to explore where the line of “become human” blurs.

Indeed!

On second thought maybe they didn’t include it in the tasks to simplify them for the person playing, but it would have definitely been a nice touch to actually give it a meaning!

Thats an awesome thought! That maybe Connor reached that level due to him being a significantly more intelligent prototype, or that the earlier android variants suffer the lack of experiencing “fully becoming human”, as you said! This makes me wonder, if Markus is an
RK200, and since the numbers go up per new android versions, does that make him an earlier prototype? if so, how do his ideals differ from Connor’s? How much are they refined compared to an android with a superior processor?

The freedom march is definitely.. something. Markus and Connor being able to “wake” up androids (so much so as by just reaching out to them remotely), Markus being a gifted product to Carl, and the whole ordeal about Kamski helping deviants to rise up, so he can take control again and wipe them out? Kind of a strange scenario, i hope it gets a more thorough explanation in the next game.

To be honest, I’d rather they focus the big plot on Kamski vs Cyberlife and their machination. Kamski relies on an event that may not happen in order to get rid of Cyberflife is a bit weird but it can just be his experimental and chaotic nature. It would be super interesting for Markus to realize that he is simply a pawn and his freedom act is just a wild gamble of another human. That’s double existential crisis for him.

I got the feeling that the RK line is a Cyberlife exclusive series with limited production number and are for Cyberlife’s use only. They are probably more advanced than the other mass produced market lines.
But
I don’t think the technical difference between Markus and Connor is very big. Markus was made by Kamski himself, I think he is a top notch model despite being an earlier RK prototype. Him being a personal project also means Kamski was able to sneak more stuffs into Markus too. That’s probably why only Markus got the converting ability?

If Conner was based largely on Markus after Kamski left, and the other techs didn’t bother to modified the RK line’s software blue print in detail,
either because Kamski didn’t share all his secret, or the other techs simply can’t fully grasp it, it made sense that Connor also got Markus’ converting power and the “back door” which are hidden deep in Kamski’s coding.

I bet if Kamski made a super neat and well organized coding file of his original RK, the later developers probably won’t bother comb through his every code, they’ll simply modify the source code a bit to make a model that meet their expectation: If they want a detective model, they’ll simply add more analytical tools, nothing innovative. If they want the RK800 to be cool headed but still able to integrate, they’ll simply damp down the emotional section and enhance the logical section, but the source coding are still there and will take over when receiving enough stimulation, which is why Connor showed software instability early on
(being with Hank doesn’t help).

Also, I wonder: does Cyberlife even run by human? Amanda is an AI, but does she follow her human CEO’s order? Or this whole send Connor and solve the deviants problem is her own action? There’s big difference between the two…