I just realized “I’ve survived the Mike Costa Transformers comic, I can survive whatever 2018 Marvel Venom dish out. It won’t be worse then that.” Must be a very confusing statement to comic Venom fans lol

Someone who knows more about the comic Venom please tell me: does Venom 2003-2–4 (the 18 issues one) has anything to do with other previous stories between 1999 to this arc? I think I missed something major here because in Venom: Final, Eddie was captured by the government, but in Venom 2003, he’s out in NYC and was captured by the Fantastic Four.

Did they retcon the whole thing and ignore the old story timeline or?????

Venom – Finale (01 – 03) (1997-1998)

This draws the end of the 90′s Venom comics. I got to say it’s not very satisfying (story-wise it’s good. Emotion-wise it’s terrible).

The US government thought Venom was not a good tool because they gave a vague order and Venom took it the wrong way.

So they simply drugged him down with dopamine inhibitor, put him in a vault, and debating who should be the one to push the button to blow him up.

Eddie got the symbiote to perform an open chest surgery to get the explosive out of his body. It’s said in here that the symbiote can’t block his pain receptor. OUCH.

Venom was out and they’re (rightfully) MAD

The government simply stood there and watched Venom almost trashed Spiderman because they don’t want to pay for the public damage… such nice gentlemen.

They didn’t act until Spiderman took Venom out… cowards.

I am too angry to comment at this scene. They ended up being seperated, Eddie locked up, the symbiote seemely dead. That’s… fucked up.

Eddie was shown to be happy to follow orders and honestly thought he was
redeeming himself in the previous two or three stories while working
for the government. He could do some actual good things and become a
better person if his was in a decent organization, being consulted with decent people, instead of being
treated as some mad dog. He was never not that “off” in the 90′s comics but I guess it
all went to shit

after this “Final”.

Spider-Man – The Venom Agenda (1998)

What does this conversation sounds like to you?

LMAO poor Peter doesn’t have health insurence.

… you could have just said to scare JJJ a little. Being that vague sounds 100% like you were giving an assasination order you wanted to deny if anything goes wrong. Also, all the past missions Venom was given were all “ok to kill”, so what do you expect, huh?

Roast In Perdition! LMAO

Good ‘ol half naked Eddie Brock

He got head trauma and amnesia from falling off a building but I guess everything is fine…

… except nope because in the next story they’re going to kill Eddie because he “went off” in this mission. Because the US government totally made their mission objective as clear as Santorini daylight in August.

apprenticenanoswarm:

land-of-brains-and-chocolate:

enbiote:

land-of-brains-and-chocolate:

i talk about how terribly the cancer arc handled the symbiote (and on purpose) but you know the whole thing had the primary goal of giving eddie a secret reason to want spider-man dead that actually makes sense

and, like, that right there is also character assassination, my man never had a single rational thought process in his life, he genuinely believed in every justification he pulled out of his ass and i don’t have to take this slander

also the thing about the writers pushing the whole “eddie wanted spider-man dead cause he was afraid the symbiote would choose peter over him and then he would die of cancer” is that they didn’t need to add that last part? we already know that 1) eddie spent his whole childhood trying to preform for love and 2) he’s in love with the symbiote and has no other connections, so to say he justified wanting spider-man dead out of an unconscious fear of losing the symbiote’s love is something that makes total sense. his goals don’t have to come out of a fear of death, they can just be a desire to have his emotional needs met.

instead they add the cancer factor as a part of his ‘redemption’ arc that really just tries to negate what he’s redeeming himself from rather than letting him actually improve. its unnecessary clutter to a character arc that would have made perfect sense without it.

the thing about the original cancer arc is that i don’t think the writing is bad, actually. i mean, i’m never going to reread it, i’m going off memory here, but i think it has its goals, and i think it achieves them. it’s these goals that are bad.

adding the cancer factor seems unnecessary when you take it as a given that eddie is, in fact, having his emotional needs met by the symbiote. but this arc’s entire secondary goal – the less obvious one, the one casual readers won’t care so much about – was specifically to dispel the notion that either of them is getting anything out of their relationship.

for that, the cancer is very necessary. it gives the symbiote a reason to stay with eddie without caring about him. it gives eddie a reason to stay with the symbiote without caring about it. that was the point, not a side effect.

there’s a difference between disregarding or misunderstanding canon and subverting it in loving detail. they knew what they were doing, essentially. 

this. this is important. let’s not give benefit of the doubt where it isn’t due. they knew very well what they were about.