When her officers are ready to literally commit mutiny against her because she refuses to assure them there’s even a plan at ALL, then a good leader would absolutely intervene with some sort of assurance in order to keep morale up. The narrative set up all our characters of color to fail while Meanwhile giving this random white woman a heroic moment of brilliance and sacrifice. It’s shoddy storytelling and manufactured conflict.
Besides, if Poe hadn’t destroyed that Dreadnaught it would’ve pursued and destroyed them after the first jet to lightspeed. Poe already got punished by Leia; once they realized the tight spot they were in, it wasn’t necessary to continue punishing him, esp at the hands of an imperious white lady who wouldn’t fucking deign to tell him a goddamn thing.
(Sierra, I really need someone to add your tags to this because they sum up me feelings on it perfectly but I have no idea how to do so. ;-;)
Got ‘em for you, Skuun. (Sorry, had to go with a screenshot on mobile, hopefully that’s okay? I can do a proper tag grab later if you like.)
Thanks, Tems!
Like.. For real. Every group of ppl working on sth as big and being I a state of crisis have these issues. Especially with people like Holdo and Poe who are stubborn and strong minded and both wanna do the right thing.
Rebellions aren’t perfect and without flaw.
Anyone who’s lived in a society that has recently had such types of resistances knows this.
Usually ppl on the so called good side, end up arguing with each other..
This was like straight out of a star trek episode. Creating the necessary conflict that human nature is capable of, showing it is possible In tough situations even in the best of groups.
The pint is that eventually everyone does the right thing and helps solve the problem and make amends with each other.
Nd we see both poe and Holdo finally hold respect for each other and Leia accepts I frontbench everyone else that Poe is no their leader.
Yes. There could’ve been better written stuff. But ffs just stop fucking g reaching and missing the point.
If this was star trek Fandom ppl would be analysing tjks excitedly and critically though a very different lense.
After watching it the second time, I feel like yes, they are both to blame, but Holdo needs to take at least 70% of the blame.
Because first, she is the commanding officer, the responsibility to steady the troops is on her.
Second, while she has a reason to hold off information when the retreat is a secret mission because they knew they’re tracked through light speed, but they didn’t know how, so it made sense that Holdo wanted the fewer people knowing their plan the better, and Poe yelling at the bridge didn’t help keeping the plan secret (it proved later that it’s through Poe and Finn/Rose’s dialogue that the plan was leaked to DJ and later to the First Order).
However, when openly challenged by a captain like that, in such a dire situation, when everyone on the ship was
probably
thinking about the same thing, it’s her responsibility to settle down the situation. She can either go for the softer approach by shutting up Poe first, then getting him aside to tell him the plan (since Leia trusted him, he can surely be trusted). Or she can go for the harder approach by taking him to the brig, locking him up to prevent him from doing anything stupid before the plan is clear (judging by his history of insubordination, it’s not difficult to imagine it), and silencing the others’ possible riot for the time being. But she acted like she’s totally clueless, not even the “I make bad decision but
I’m too stubborn to listen to you” kind of clueless, but completely had no idea what to do, that’s not how you should act as a military leader (heck, you shouldn’t act like that as any kind of leader) because when a leader is clueless, the people under the leader will act on their own. Can’t really blame the three poor people who tried to desert.
I think it just showed that the Resistance, being an unofficial army, severely lacks the training and discipline of being a functional military force, that they rely heavily on personal heroism and skills to fight (I totally blame the New Republic for not taking the remains of the Empire seriously). It works when the First Order is just a budding threat in the Outer Rim, but when the First Order raised as a proper military force with overwhelming number and power, the Resistance can’t possibly deal with it.
Just watched The Last Jedi. IT’S SO GOOD I WAS IN TEARS. We applauded several times in the theater, which is a rare thing in Taiwan (we are usually quiet, laughing is usually the only thing we do)
HUGE SPOILERS UNDERCUT!! READ AT YOUR OWN RISK!!
Poe called Hux “general Hoax” I AM DEAD.
Poe is the son Leia deserves. I like that he does have flaws, he thinks and acts like an one man army because he has the skills, which is great as a soldier but Leia hopes he can be more. He learned to retreat, to think more than “blast this ship”. I hope he’ll take the leader role in the next episode.
I wonder how they round up Leia’s story in her absence… she is the heart of the Resistance…
Leia can use the Force!!! That scene in the space is so beautiful but terrifying too. For a moment I thought she’s dead. Don’t scare me like that.
Why they have to kill Ackbar… he’s like… always there…
Luke’s story is the most heart wrenching. It’s where I got teared up. I think with a limited time, they did give the background story between Luke and Ben Solo a tragic and sufficient twist. It is sad that even Luke can be taken over buy fear and had a dark moment. Even though he changed his mind but it’s too late and turned out to be the worst case scenario. No wonder he felt responsible.
Luke’s last moment though. He pulled an Obi-Wan Kenobi that is 1000 times sassier than Obi-Wan Kenobi which probably cannot be surpassed.
How powerful is Luke that he can force-broadcast himself across the galaxy??? And he can actually touch things with his force-projection???
Kylo Ren. I think seeing Luke trying to kill him as the last straw to push him to the dark side is a much more convincing reason than what they said on the interviews.
Rey had such an emotional ride through the movie. I like that even though she was willing to reach out to Kylo Ren and offered hope after she learned the whole story between Kylo and Luke, she’s not swayed when Kylo Ren asked her to join him to the dark side. It’s good to see that she has moments of confusion, sadness, and weakness, but she still sticks to the right choices.
I wonder if Rey counts as a Jedi-Jedi since what she learned from Luke is not really about Jedi but the force itself.
Interestingly I think Kylo really wants Rey to be with her, not even in a romantic sense but in more of a force companion (??) sense. But I think Rey is more like… she can get why Kylo become what he is but it’s not enough to convince/convert her.
Force-webcam is such an evil idea. I can foresee so many fics coming lol
“Mild nudity” heh, I just remembered that. Now I know where that is. PS: it’s Kylo Ren’s bare upper body. Love it when Rey commented “can’t you wear a robe or something?” lmao
Rose’s story made me want to cry. She lost so much but she still kept fighting.
Finn is so determined and brave. I know he and Rose’s plan didn’t work in the end because some bastard betrayed them but I don’t think that’s the point of his story. He was willing to risk everything and go back to a place he wanted to flee in the last film just to give the others a chance of survival. I was so worry when he almost did a suicide crush to the ram-cannon.
Finn smacked Phasma right in the head. Stars above, that must felt so good.
Now they will released a broken mask version of Phasma toy, right? *wink to Hasbro*
And I bet Phasma didn’t die. That’s some
Schrödinger’s explosion ;))))
I guess that’s my short review about tlj… I need to watch it again in 2D to see more detail…
A Force Sensitive Phasesixer 